Comments on: YDN Theater — Douglas Crockford: “The State of Ajax” http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/ The official blog of the YUI Project. Thu, 09 Feb 2012 01:46:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.4 By: Flinn http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-592062 Flinn Sat, 05 Jun 2010 15:19:57 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-592062 liked the talk ,but I since m a web designer ,I don't think css is a crap.... liked the talk ,but I since m a web designer ,I don’t think css is a crap….

]]> By: Will Kemp http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-578782 Will Kemp Wed, 04 Mar 2009 15:41:48 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-578782 I should just clarify my above comment... Digital Equipment Corp's Vax 11/780 was excellent at multi-user - i mentioned it as a contrast to the crapness of the IBM, but i didn't make that clear. I should just clarify my above comment… Digital Equipment Corp’s Vax 11/780 was excellent at multi-user – i mentioned it as a contrast to the crapness of the IBM, but i didn’t make that clear.

]]> By: Will Kemp http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-578779 Will Kemp Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:04:16 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-578779 A very interesting talk, but i'm not sure i agree with the conclusion. I programmed using punched cards back at the beginning of the 80s. I also did development on a multi user IBM 370 (later upgraded to a 4340) and on a multi user Vax 11/780 - and i definitely agree that IBM was crap at multi user stuff! I programmed graphics on early home computers in 81-82, as well - and they were unbelievably primitive! I also used to work with cut and paste (paper) layout for printing. I agree that CSS is a bit clunky, but i don't agree that it's crap. I think CSS is brilliant. It's hard to envision a replacement that could have the incredible flexibility of CSS, while being significantly different. And, having worked with paper tape, punched cards, teletypes, 6560 graphics chips, and HTML 1, i think the future is fantastic. I'm constantly amazed that this stuff has developed so far in such a short time! There's definitely plenty of room for improvement, but what's been achieved so far is incredible. A very interesting talk, but i’m not sure i agree with the conclusion.

I programmed using punched cards back at the beginning of the 80s. I also did development on a multi user IBM 370 (later upgraded to a 4340) and on a multi user Vax 11/780 – and i definitely agree that IBM was crap at multi user stuff!

I programmed graphics on early home computers in 81-82, as well – and they were unbelievably primitive!

I also used to work with cut and paste (paper) layout for printing.

I agree that CSS is a bit clunky, but i don’t agree that it’s crap. I think CSS is brilliant. It’s hard to envision a replacement that could have the incredible flexibility of CSS, while being significantly different.

And, having worked with paper tape, punched cards, teletypes, 6560 graphics chips, and HTML 1, i think the future is fantastic. I’m constantly amazed that this stuff has developed so far in such a short time! There’s definitely plenty of room for improvement, but what’s been achieved so far is incredible.

]]> By: zaklady sportowe http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-368316 zaklady sportowe Wed, 07 May 2008 12:02:14 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-368316 He is amazing guy. I have never heard so many valuable information. He is amazing guy. I have never heard so many valuable information.

]]> By: Re: The Fight » Blog Archive » The Premise http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-346660 Re: The Fight » Blog Archive » The Premise Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:39:24 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-346660 [...] you haven’t seen it already, I recommend you watch this presentation by Douglas Crockford. Douglas Crockford, love him or hate him, knows a lot about internet technologies.  Even if there [...] [...] you haven’t seen it already, I recommend you watch this presentation by Douglas Crockford. Douglas Crockford, love him or hate him, knows a lot about internet technologies.  Even if there [...]

]]> By: YDN Theater — Julien Lecomte: “High Performance Ajax Applications” » Yahoo! User Interface Blog http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-262643 YDN Theater — Julien Lecomte: “High Performance Ajax Applications” » Yahoo! User Interface Blog Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:23:45 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-262643 [...] Crockford: "The State of Ajax" (YUIBlog | .m4v [...] [...] Crockford: "The State of Ajax" (YUIBlog | .m4v [...]

]]> By: Catching Up to Video Games « Ian Lotinsky http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-259600 Catching Up to Video Games « Ian Lotinsky Sat, 15 Dec 2007 16:43:29 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-259600 [...] 15, 2007 A little over a month ago, Yahoo’s Douglas Crawford gave a great presentation on “The State of Ajax.” His opening was brilliant. He started with a brief history of computing ending with some of the [...] [...] 15, 2007 A little over a month ago, Yahoo’s Douglas Crawford gave a great presentation on “The State of Ajax.” His opening was brilliant. He started with a brief history of computing ending with some of the [...]

]]> By: Fabian Vercuiel http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-258978 Fabian Vercuiel Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:50:22 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-258978 pete b, I think what he meant when he flamed css was that when you look at CSS in terms of how browsers treat it.. it is crap. That does not necessarily mean that CSS cant be applied to your websites. The only way you can use CSS today and not worry about browser compatibility is by using Flex which compiles the CSS into bytecode that gets run by Flash (which works on every platform and browser) If it weren't for Adobe though CSS would have had the same fate as the rest of the web technologies. pete b,

I think what he meant when he flamed css was that when you look at CSS in terms of how browsers treat it.. it is crap. That does not necessarily mean that CSS cant be applied to your websites. The only way you can use CSS today and not worry about browser compatibility is by using Flex which compiles the CSS into bytecode that gets run by Flash (which works on every platform and browser)

If it weren’t for Adobe though CSS would have had the same fate as the rest of the web technologies.

]]> By: Die Beste Aller Zeiten - Eike Pierstorff : Blog Archive : Yahoo Goodies and a Reminder about Open Standards http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-253193 Die Beste Aller Zeiten - Eike Pierstorff : Blog Archive : Yahoo Goodies and a Reminder about Open Standards Thu, 06 Dec 2007 11:53:05 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-253193 [...] on the YUI blog I found a presentation by Douglas Crockford who was talking about The State of Ajax -and the news isn’t good, or to put it more precisely there aren’t actually any news. [...] [...] on the YUI blog I found a presentation by Douglas Crockford who was talking about The State of Ajax -and the news isn’t good, or to put it more precisely there aren’t actually any news. [...]

]]> By: pete b http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/comment-page-1/#comment-242206 pete b Sun, 25 Nov 2007 17:06:48 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2007/11/06/video-crockford/#comment-242206 I'm interested that he said CSS is crap, what are the alternatives? I’m interested that he said CSS is crap, what are the alternatives?

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