Comments on: The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Premature Standardization http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/ The official blog of the YUI Project. Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:43:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Antipode - Article - Javascript engine showdown http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-451708 Antipode - Article - Javascript engine showdown Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:01:28 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-451708 [...] are sure to shake up the Javascript world for the better. This is all the more exciting given the new activity in the ECMA standardization process that might bring new life to the [...] [...] are sure to shake up the Javascript world for the better. This is all the more exciting given the new activity in the ECMA standardization process that might bring new life to the [...]

]]> By: JavaScriptly | Is Future of JavaScript in Harmony? http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-450913 JavaScriptly | Is Future of JavaScript in Harmony? Fri, 22 Aug 2008 07:17:06 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-450913 [...] to hear that EcmaScript 4 (ES4) standard project fell apart. Through quite a long post “The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Premature Standardization“, Douglas Crockford told us why EcmaScript standard must be revised to cope up with changes [...] [...] to hear that EcmaScript 4 (ES4) standard project fell apart. Through quite a long post “The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Premature Standardization“, Douglas Crockford told us why EcmaScript standard must be revised to cope up with changes [...]

]]> By:   Business,Technology,Uncategorized | Hello Tech Timers! This issue of the SitePoint Tech Times is all about Harmony.  — Recycle Email http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-449293   Business,Technology,Uncategorized | Hello Tech Timers! This issue of the SitePoint Tech Times is all about Harmony.  — Recycle Email Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:16:43 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-449293 [...] Eich can be read at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). [...] [...] Eich can be read at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). [...]

]]> By: SitePoint Blogs » ECMAScript Harmony: New Life for JavaScript http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-448195 SitePoint Blogs » ECMAScript Harmony: New Life for JavaScript Tue, 19 Aug 2008 06:59:45 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-448195 [...] Eich can be read at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). [...] [...] Eich can be read at Ajaxian, and the reactions from other JavaScript notables like John Resig, Douglas Crockford, Mike Chambers, and Alex Russell make worthwhile reading (with varying levels of technical detail). [...]

]]> By: Giles Shelley http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-447631 Giles Shelley Mon, 18 Aug 2008 10:07:04 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-447631 If JavaScript was half-baked to begin with, and cast in stone for the foreseeable future, I suppose the only path for future innovation is to create another language to manipulate the DOM in a browser. The hard part (beyond writing the code) is getting browsers to support it, so it's a bit of a chicken and egg problem. If JavaScript was half-baked to begin with, and cast in stone for the foreseeable future, I suppose the only path for future innovation is to create another language to manipulate the DOM in a browser. The hard part (beyond writing the code) is getting browsers to support it, so it’s a bit of a chicken and egg problem.

]]> By: Michael O'Brien http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-447471 Michael O'Brien Sun, 17 Aug 2008 23:33:55 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-447471 While totally agreeing on the dangers of premature standardization, I would add that ES4 did deliver in many respects. Take Ejscript (http://www.ejscript.org), it implemented and shipped most of ES4 and nearly all the hard portions. While still pre-release, it demonstrated the viability of many of the ES4 concepts. Ejscript will now track ES-Harmony, but will continue to explore creative solutions for Javascript and will test these out prior to standardization in real-world situations. While totally agreeing on the dangers of premature standardization, I would add that ES4 did deliver in many respects. Take Ejscript (http://www.ejscript.org), it implemented and shipped most of ES4 and nearly all the hard portions. While still pre-release, it demonstrated the viability of many of the ES4 concepts.

Ejscript will now track ES-Harmony, but will continue to explore creative solutions for Javascript and will test these out prior to standardization in real-world situations.

]]> By: The Cave » Blog Archive » ECMAscript 4.0 is Dead? http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-447359 The Cave » Blog Archive » ECMAscript 4.0 is Dead? Sun, 17 Aug 2008 19:00:59 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-447359 [...] ECMAscript 3.1 instead of the major jump to 4.0? Douglas Crockford cites premature standardization as an evil (which it is) to be avoided (rightly) calling this a wise change of course. Still [...] [...] ECMAscript 3.1 instead of the major jump to 4.0? Douglas Crockford cites premature standardization as an evil (which it is) to be avoided (rightly) calling this a wise change of course. Still [...]

]]> By: pipwerks.com » Blog Archive » Standards don’t foster innovation, they codify it http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-446129 pipwerks.com » Blog Archive » Standards don’t foster innovation, they codify it Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:27:03 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-446129 [...] to read some of the reactions, including those from Adobe’s Dave McAllister and Yahoo’s Douglas Crockford. I swear this passage from Crockford could have come directly from one of the SCORM 2.0 [...] [...] to read some of the reactions, including those from Adobe’s Dave McAllister and Yahoo’s Douglas Crockford. I swear this passage from Crockford could have come directly from one of the SCORM 2.0 [...]

]]> By: Mozilla Standards Blog » Blog Archive » After Oslo: Thoughts on Harmony and Evolution http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-445669 Mozilla Standards Blog » Blog Archive » After Oslo: Thoughts on Harmony and Evolution Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:26:22 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-445669 [...] meeting Brendan and I attended in Oslo did; check out John Resig’s blog post, and then Doug Crockford’s. And, there’s also the Open Web Podcast on ECMAScript Harmonization that John Resig, Alex [...] [...] meeting Brendan and I attended in Oslo did; check out John Resig’s blog post, and then Doug Crockford’s. And, there’s also the Open Web Podcast on ECMAScript Harmonization that John Resig, Alex [...]

]]> By: Ajaxian » ECMAScript Harmony: Brendan Eich, Douglas Crockford, Adobe, and more http://www.yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/comment-page-1/#comment-445531 Ajaxian » ECMAScript Harmony: Brendan Eich, Douglas Crockford, Adobe, and more Fri, 15 Aug 2008 15:32:19 +0000 http://yuiblog.com/blog/2008/08/14/premature-standardization/#comment-445531 [...] have other postings going on in the community too. Douglas Crockford writes an opinion on how The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Premature Standardization and Mike Chambers wraps up the thoughts of Adobe on ActionScript 3 and ECMAScript [...] [...] have other postings going on in the community too. Douglas Crockford writes an opinion on how The Only Thing We Have To Fear Is Premature Standardization and Mike Chambers wraps up the thoughts of Adobe on ActionScript 3 and ECMAScript [...]

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